Orders

I've checked out and realised I missed something: can I add to my order?

As long as your order hasn't been shipped yet, Yes:

If you're in the UK just check out in the normal way again but use the 'collect from us' shipping option, which is free. Please make a note in the notes box when you check out of the 'order number' you'd like it adding to so that we know what to do with it. Once your order is in Shipped status it's too late to add anything further to it, so if you've decided to add a lot of things it's best to contact us first so that we can delay fulfilment while you do so. Similarly if your earlier order was place more than 1 day ago, please let us know you want to add to it or you may find we've fulfilled it while you were doing so.

If you're outside the UK proceed as above but you'll also need to change your country to UK so that the system will give you the 'Collect from us' option.

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I've checked out and realised I missed something: can I add to my order?

As long as your order hasn't been shipped yet, Yes:

If you're in the UK just check out in the normal way again but use the 'collect from us' shipping option, which is free. Please make a note in the notes box when you check out of the 'order number' you'd like it adding to so that we know what to do with it. Once your order is in Shipped status it's too late to add anything further to it, so if you've decided to add a lot of things it's best to contact us first so that we can delay fulfilment while you do so. Similarly if your earlier order was place more than 1 day ago, please let us know you want to add to it or you may find we've fulfilled it while you were doing so.

If you're outside the UK proceed as above but you'll also need to change your country to UK so that the system will give you the 'Collect from us' option.

I want to buy in bulk: can Pell Wall sell larger quantities of ingredients than are listed on the web site?

Yes, in almost all cases we can.

Be aware however that the largest quantity of anything that we sell is 25Kg and that while anything can be delivered in the UK, some bulk materials are not available overseas.

There may also be a lead time and there will usually be additional shipping charges too.

Please contact us for a quotation.

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I want to buy in bulk: can Pell Wall sell larger quantities of ingredients than are listed on the web site?

Yes, in almost all cases we can.

Be aware however that the largest quantity of anything that we sell is 25Kg and that while anything can be delivered in the UK, some bulk materials are not available overseas.

There may also be a lead time and there will usually be additional shipping charges too.

Please contact us for a quotation.

Is there a minimum order?

For most countries no.

You can order as much or as little as you like, however please note that our shipping charges are a flat rate so you will get better value by buying more items at once.

The exception to this is countries in the EU VAT area where, from the 1st of July 2021, the EU has decided to charge VAT on even the smallest parcels and to require companies selling into the EU to collect VAT on purchases under 150 Euros on their behalf and pay it to them directly.  That's far too much extra admin for a tiny firm like ours and as the vast majority of orders we receive are well over that amount, meaning VAT is collected on import in the destination country, we have decided to impose a £150 minimum order value for affected countries.

Details of shipping costs are here.

You can find out additional information from the European Commission's official web site.

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Is there a minimum order?

For most countries no.

You can order as much or as little as you like, however please note that our shipping charges are a flat rate so you will get better value by buying more items at once.

The exception to this is countries in the EU VAT area where, from the 1st of July 2021, the EU has decided to charge VAT on even the smallest parcels and to require companies selling into the EU to collect VAT on purchases under 150 Euros on their behalf and pay it to them directly.  That's far too much extra admin for a tiny firm like ours and as the vast majority of orders we receive are well over that amount, meaning VAT is collected on import in the destination country, we have decided to impose a £150 minimum order value for affected countries.

Details of shipping costs are here.

You can find out additional information from the European Commission's official web site.

Are Pell Wall prices inclusive of VAT?

If you’re logged in to pellwall.com with an IP address that is recognisably in the United Kingdom you’ll see prices including VAT, if you appear to be outside the area you’ll see prices excluding VAT automatically.

The site functions like so: products display VAT included prices on the product page, that price is also what you see in your cart once they are added to the cart, the checkout form shows a breakdown of the price excluding VAT and the amount of VAT charged. VAT isn’t being added twice.

Please note that if you are browsing from outside the UK but want your order shipped to somewhere within the UK, for example because it’s a gift or you’re travelling here, then we have to charge VAT on the order and that will be added when you checkout.

Brexit has meant that there is no-longer a link bettween EU and UK VAT so if you are in the EU we won't charge UK VAT on your order, but it is likely that your own Government will charge VAT on Import: we have no control over this and you will be responsible for paying the tax to the appropriate tax authoritiy in your country.

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Are Pell Wall prices inclusive of VAT?

If you’re logged in to pellwall.com with an IP address that is recognisably in the United Kingdom you’ll see prices including VAT, if you appear to be outside the area you’ll see prices excluding VAT automatically.

The site functions like so: products display VAT included prices on the product page, that price is also what you see in your cart once they are added to the cart, the checkout form shows a breakdown of the price excluding VAT and the amount of VAT charged. VAT isn’t being added twice.

Please note that if you are browsing from outside the UK but want your order shipped to somewhere within the UK, for example because it’s a gift or you’re travelling here, then we have to charge VAT on the order and that will be added when you checkout.

Brexit has meant that there is no-longer a link bettween EU and UK VAT so if you are in the EU we won't charge UK VAT on your order, but it is likely that your own Government will charge VAT on Import: we have no control over this and you will be responsible for paying the tax to the appropriate tax authoritiy in your country.

Do I have to pay VAT? Can I get VAT-free supply?

The situation has changed as a result of the exit of the UK from the EU.  

We no-longer charge VAT on orders shipped to any EU destination but you will be charged VAT on import by your own Government, which if you are a VAT registered business you may be able to reclaim: that isn't something we have any control over or can get involved with.

The concept of Inter-community VAT-free Supply no longer applies to UK based suppliers.

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Do I have to pay VAT? Can I get VAT-free supply?

The situation has changed as a result of the exit of the UK from the EU.  

We no-longer charge VAT on orders shipped to any EU destination but you will be charged VAT on import by your own Government, which if you are a VAT registered business you may be able to reclaim: that isn't something we have any control over or can get involved with.

The concept of Inter-community VAT-free Supply no longer applies to UK based suppliers.

Shipping

My order has been marked as Shipped but the tracking number doesn't work. What's wrong?

The most likely reason is that the parcel has been booked in with the carrier but not yet collected from us.

With some carriers the tracking number we get when we book the parcel in has spaces in it but their tracking systems only recognise the number without spaces, we try to remember to remove the spaces when we copy the number into our system that notifies you but sometimes we forget: if there are spaces take them out and the number should then work.

If your order has been marked as Shipped, but not yet collected from our Shropshire base, you may see the following from our main couriers:

DPD: Tracking will return an error until the parcel is collected and scanned in, after that it should work.  Note that if your parcel was finished after the daily collection, the error may remain until the following day. Our DPD collection is normally about 3pm.

DHL: An error message tends to appear for a short while before their system updates with a message saying 'information received from shipper'. Check DHL's web site for service updates. DHL collections are usually early in the day. Also some DHL parcels go via another courier and we add the DHL tracking number later in the day: in this case you'll get an update to your order when the DHL number is added.

ParcelForce: Will show an error message until the parcel has ben scanned in and registered by their depot. Check ParcelForce's web site for service updates. Parcelforce collections are usually around lunchtime.

Royal Mail: We check parcels in here but then they have to be taken to the local Post Office which is a couple of miles away and then they have to be individually scanned in by them - this usually only happens towards the end of the day and until it's done tracking won't be available.

Please note that once a parcel has been collected from us we are no longer able to provide information on where it may be. We only have acces to the same tracking facilities that you do

I just want to buy one 10g bottle - is there a cheaper shipping option?

Sorry, no there isn’t.

Shipping charges (detailed here) are carefully chosen to be as fair as possible to all our customers and ensure that shipping costs are covered. We try to neither make a profit or a loss on shipping charges.

It often costs us the same to send a small package as it does to send a larger one. That’s not just the courier charge but also it has to go into a box with packaging around it to ensure it doesn’t get broken and someone has to be paid to pack it: then there’s paying someone to take it to the courier or paying for collection and finally the cost of the carriage itself. In all cases a significant part of the cost is paying someone to pack your order – it’s not just the cost of postage.

Why not combine your order with a friend to save shipping costs? Or wait until you need several things?

Do you ship to my Country?

Almost certainly yes.

We ship worldwide, the only exceptions are areas that the UK is currently enforcing sanctions or restrictions against or that is an active war zone. Please see our delivery information page for more details.

Since Brexit we have encountered difficulties with customs in some European countries and in some cases have stopped shipping to those countries (countries affected are listed on the delivery information page).  Often the problem relates to restrictions imposed in those countries on imports of cosmetics and in that case if you have a company and a license as required by your countries regulations, we may be able to make an exception for you: if that is the case please get in touch prior to ordering.

If you are not offered a shipping option when you go to checkout, please use the web support email address to let us know and we will sort it out for you if we can.

Where is my order?

When your order has been shipped you will receive a tracking number. This tracking number may not work until the package has been scanned in at our courier’s sorting facility.

From to time to time demand for our products can be high and there maybe a delay to shipping your parcel – these delays are heavily advertised across our site, social media and email newsletter campaigns.

Can I get Free Shipping?

Only to a UK mainland address.

We do not offer free shipping on any order for delivery outside of the UK.

We offer free shipping on orders over £200 that are to be delivered to a UK mainland address - regardless of the billing address - non-UK residents could therefore take advantage of this while visiting the UK but in that case UK VAT will be charged, which may still work out cheaper than the VAT on import due for deliveries to EU countries.

We reserve the right to withold this benefit and charge a fee if the delivery address is particularly remote and cannot easily be reached or additional charges are incurred from our couriers.

Products

I have bought products from you but cannot find an expiry or shelf date info on the bottle - can you send me their expiration details?

Unfortunately we cannot provide this information.  We regularly check the quality of the materials we sell and if anything has deteriorated it is disposed of: you will not receive materials that are unfit for use.

We are a small business with a small team and simply do not have the time to manage transposing dates onto each individual bottle without significantly increasing the time it takes to fulfil orders and the cost of doing so.

Some materials have certificates of analysis, provided online, and these generally indicate an expiry or re-test date; however many suppliers no-longer provide these and so neither can we.

Why are products sold by weight?

We prefer to sell ingredients by weight wherever possible because it’s more accurate and also the perfumery industry standard is to measure everything by weight.  Previously very small amounts were sold by volume – 10ml and 5ml – however we now sell even these small sizes by weight and so you will get 5g or 10g, which may result in different fill levels in the bottle due the wide variations in the specific gravity of perfume making materials.  Of course some materials come as a powder in which case different containers are used but it's still always sold by weight.

The only things we still sell by volume are a few solvents and in those cases it is clearly indicated in the product description.

Further details of why we prefer to use weight as a measurement is set out in this blog post where you will also find advice on what sort of scale to buy for the purpose:

Weight or Volume?

Are ingredients available in 10ml sizes always liquids?

No, some ingredients come as a powder and some as a solid that is melted for use. Where this is the case it says so in the product description. You can also tell by checking which categories the material is in – if it’s normally sold as a liquid it will be in the Liquids category if it’s crystals or a solid that requires melting it will be in the Solids category.

Some materials are in both categories where we offer both an undiluted solid and a dilution in a solvent; where the material has a melting point close to room temperature and so may arrive liquid or solid depending on the weather; or in very few cases because the material comes as a semi-solid mass: again check the description for details.

Note that we no-longer sell most ingredients by volume in any size - 10g has replaced 10ml - only a few solvents are still sold by volume.

What does product available on backorder mean?

If you see that a product is available on backorder it means that we don’t currently have stock but can make or buy in that material in response to your order.  When you include backordered items we will normally hold the entire order until we have everything in stock and then send it all together.  Only with very large orders will we send the rest and follow up with the backordered items(s), so please keep this in mind if you are in a hurry for any part of your order.

Do any Pell Wall products contain animal derived products? Are they tested on animals?

None of the products available in the Pell Wall shop are derived from any animal source, with the sole exception of our Ambergris Tinctures, which are made from beach collected ambergris.  Also two of the types of Ambrettolide that we sell use a starting material that is secreted by a type of bug: the bug itself is not used but those types of Ambrettolide would not qualify as vegan under the strict definition: Ambrettolide HC Supreme is fully vegan however.

We don’t believe in using animal ingredients such as Civet, which involve cruelty to the animal in the collection process, or such as natural Musk, which involves extraction either before or after death of an organ from an animal that is an endangered species.  We do however offer the finest quality synthetic replacements for these products for you to use instead.

None of the products we sell are tested on animals (other than human volunteers, including the Pell Wall Perfumer) by us or by anyone else on our behalf.  Many of the older materials still cite historic animal testing done in less enlightened times in their safety data sheets but none of our manufacturers have tested on animals for many years.

I need documentation for ingredients I have purchased - how do I get it?

As far as possible we make documentation available for download from the individual product pages for each ingredient.  If the documentation isn’t there we can’t supply it by any other means, in some cases we don’t have it: not all manufacturers provide all documents or any.  In other cases we haven’t prepared it for download, which is a process that costs us labour and therefore money – it’s not something you can demand from us simply because you’ve purchased the product – that service is not included in the product price.

As noted in our T&Cs “Documentation for ingredients is provided by download from the product page only: if you need documentation that isn’t available on the product page please don’t buy that ingredient because we don’t supply documentation by any other means.”

We are aware that when you first move to producing a product for sale in the EU you will approach a Safety Assessor to provide you with the necessary assurance that your product is safe for sale.  Often the first thing they will do is demand every possible item of documentation for every ingredient in the product, thus sending you away on a document chase.  In 2018 the Pell Wall Perfumer had almost 100 perfumes Safety Assessed, yet not a single item of documentation had to be sent to the Assessor except the IFRA Certificate for each fragrance (which is created by the Perfumer responsible for the fragrance) and the list of ingredients.  All the other documentation the assessor already had.  If your experience is different you may want to consider changing assessor!

Are Pell Wall products suitable for use in food?

None of the products available in the Pell Wall shop are certified as food grade by us.

In many cases the materials we buy in are food grade and will almost certainly be perfectly safe to use in food if you know what you’re doing: many customers use our products in food or drink.  However Pell Wall does not use handling methods compliant with food preparation regulations.

Many other products are totally unsuitable for food use either because they are toxic when ingested or we are selling them in a solvent suitable for perfumery that isn’t edible (such as DPG for example).

The Pell Wall Perfumer isn’t a flavorist, and therefore isn’t qualified to advise on safe usage, levels or application: so if you wish to use any of our ingredients in food you must take responsibility for making your own assessment as to their safety and suitability for the purpose.

I can't smell anything from the bottle, what's wrong?

There are several common reasons why you might not be able to smell anything when you sniff at the bottle of a new material.

First everyone is anosmic to some materials: it's quite unpredictable and we are all different, but this most commonly occurs with large molecules such as musks, sandalwood odourants and the like.  If this is the case you may find that you can teach your nose to detect the material through repeated, but not continuous, exposure over a period of months - this often works but not always - there are some materials that you may never be able to smell.  This perfumer had to do this with Hedone but is now able to smell it without difficulty.  Even if you can't learn to smell it alone you may well still be able to detect the effect of the material in a blend: most perfumers find they can do this even with materials they can't detect on a smelling strip at all.

That brings me to the second common problem: use a smelling strip and or a cup of hot water to evaluate a material: sniffing from the bottle is fraught with error: there may be some high-impact materials on the outside of the bottle from another material you previously handled or even from when it was packed that will overwhelm the delicate scent of a material like hedione, reseda body or hydroxycitronellol, it may be a very long lasting base-note material that evaporates so slowly that it reveals little or nothing of itself when sniffing even a perfectly clean bottle.

To use a smelling strip, dip the thin end of the strip to about half a centimeter, sit quietly in a neutral environment and sniff carefully at it the scent over an interval of several minutes.  Even if you can't detect anything at first you may well find you can after a period: materials like Fleuranil are hard to detect at first but develop into a distinct and characteristic scent over time.  With longer lasting materials it can be instructive to come back to the strip after an hour, two hours, six hours, next day or even next week: with naturals and blends the scent can change radically over such periods so it's worth taking the time to properly understand a new material in this way.

To use a cup of hot water put a tiny drop of the material you want to evaluate onto the surface of a cup of water at about the temperature of a cup of tea that's ready to drink (but of course don't drink the water!).  This simulates the effect of the material being in contact with warm skin when it's used in a fragrance and also helps to bring out the character of more delicate materials.  Allow the scent to fill the room, or sniff carefully at the water surface if it's hard to detect.  This can be a very revealing and helpful test.

Another issue can be the opposite of anosmia : hyperosmia in this case what is happening is that your nose is almost instantly overwhelmed by a powerful sent that you are particularly sensitive to.  To find out whether this is what's happening you need to get the material into high dilution (1% or even less) in a suitable solvent and then proceed to evaluate on a strip as above.  For this perfumer Raspberry Ketone had this effect and it wasn't until a 1% solution had been on strip for a week that the characteristic odour of raspberry jam , that most people get at once, finally emerged.

It is always possible that we've had a dispensing error and filled a bottle with the wrong material: it's very rare but it does happen.  What you can be quite sure we won't have done however is to fill it with water or something else odourless: if you're not smelling anything it's likely to be one of the above causes.

How do I know a material I buy from Pell Wall is genuine?

Our Perfumer writes:

I thought it might be useful to set out why this question arrises in the first place and what steps I have taken to avoid getting caught out.

So first of all, the problem is that somewhere in the supply chain, someone is unscrupulous and either adulterates one material with another or replaces it altogether with a cheaper one.  The unscrupulous person may not, and usually wont’ be, the one you’re directly buying from, which makes it harder to detect and avoid.

The problem is rare with cheap materials where the incentive to be dishonest is less, but even some cheap materials are sometimes misrepresented: a good example here are materials like Hedione, Iso E Super and Timbersilk.  That’s because there are manufacturers of generic equivalents making even cheaper knock-offs and it’s quite easy for distributors and retailers to sell these on under the well known brand name.  This practice is technically illegal under Trade Mark laws, but in practice these are rarely enforced by the big manufacturers.  The better distributors will use another name for such ‘equivalent’ products and sell them for what they are, and many perfume houses are happy to buy them on that basis.  It’s important to realise that a generic equivalent may be identical to the branded original, but more often they have important differences and often perform less well, or just differently, in a blend.

The problem is much worse when more expensive materials are involved and especially naturals, where a very large proportion of what is on sale retail has been either adulterated or outright faked.

When I first started in this industry, I was quite shocked at the prevalence of this kind of dishonesty, so I set about finding ways to protect myself and my customers from it.  Because the problem is acute with naturals, when we started selling ingredients at Pell Wall we stocked very few naturals – as my confidence in suppliers has increased, we’ve expanded to stock more and that’s a process that will continue – I’d rather not have something for sale than risk selling a fake.

With synthetics it’s a bit easier, but the key thing in both cases is to know your suppliers – and the manufacturers – I’m not talking here about a bit of internet research or the odd phone call – I mean really know them.

What I did was to set about meeting as many as I could in person (long previous history in business has taught me it’s much easier to detect a rat if you can look them in the eye).  I invited some to meet at my place, went to visit others, but mainly found it useful to go to trade fairs and events organised by the likes of the British Society of Perfumers and IFRA.  The great advantage of this is that you can have a conversation with the people you’re buying from at the same time as representatives of the manufacturers themselves.  Often the manufacturer will be presenting materials they want you to buy and giving out samples: it would be quickly obvious if what you were later sold didn’t match those. 

A trusted distributor will often present together with manufacture’s own perfumers, who will often be keen to tell you what’s different and better about their product compared to those sold by competitors.  Occasionally you need to take that with a pinch of salt of course because it’s a sales pitch after all, but it helps build a body of knowledge that enables you to assess what you’re buying and who trusts who.

Wherever possible I’ll make an overnight stay at these sorts of events: if you spend the evening drinking with someone, you’ll often learn things that might never have been mentioned in other circumstances.

Best of all I talk to lots of other perfumers, evaluators and buyers: we’re all in the same boat and everyone has a tale of getting caught out or narrowly avoiding it.  You get to know who you can trust and who you can’t.  Where you’ll need to ask extra questions (and what to ask) and who to avoid altogether.

At first it is difficult to be sure you’ve been successful, but as you get bigger you start to get confirmatory evidence: when you buy in larger quantities the material comes in a container with the manufacturers name and seal on it so you can be absolutely confident it’s right. 

Unfortunately, with cheaper materials, those quantities can be large.  For Hedione, Iso E Super and Timbersilk for example that didn’t happen until we were able to buy a 195Kg drum of each.  With our lovely Lime Oil from Charabot it was only 10Kg. For materials like Dynascone, Orris Givco, Green Tea Givco and Tangerinol it’s 5Kg that gets you a sealed drum from the manufacturer.  With Lilyflore and Mirabelle just 1Kg comes in a branded, sealed aluminium bottle and for our Rose Absolute just 500g was enough. With some manufacturers, such as Payan Bertrand and Synarome for example, everything I buy comes in their own sealed containers. You don’t need to get everything from a given distributor that way to know that you’re dealing with a reliable company.  Another kind of confirmatory evidence can be the other way round when, for example, Vertenex was discontinued by IFF I was told that had happened and not fobbed off with a substitute by the distributor I asked to price it.  When IFF discontinued Meijiff on the other hand, the distributor I bought it from suggested Mayol from Firmenich instead and we swapped to stocking that: as you can read in the product description on the website.

We don’t currently have facilities at Pell Wall to do tests on incoming materials (other than my nose that is) but I know other perfumers who do have such facilities and independent testers I can go to, to check on something that raises suspicion, and I often buy materials jointly with others to both improve the price and piggy-back on their testing facilities.

It’s also important to know the going rate for a material in the market.  A good example here is Neroli Oil – a pure and natural neroli will be in the region of £10,000 per Kg.  So if, as happened to me, a distributor offers you some at £50/Kg you know immediately that it isn’t going to be right. 

Another important thing to learn is how terminology is used: a 100% natural neroli oil will typically contain no actual neroli at all – instead it will be made up of other oils and natural isolates to imitate neroli – it will typically be £100s per Kg rather than £1,000s.  A retailer buying such a material is handily given plausible deniability in that it arrives in a container labelled Neroli Oil, so you can easily see how a retailer might imagine they’ve got a genuine bargain, when in fact they’ve bought a quite different product.

None of these steps is completely fool proof of course, but when you take a combination of steps, work with the same distributors over many years and make spot checks, you can develop a high confidence that you’re getting what you intended to buy. 

There can always be errors of course, and occasionally some of ours are not spotted until a customer finds them, but generally the errors on our website are the odd typo, an incorrect CAS number or, rather more seriously, a technical error preventing the site from functioning as it should.  What you won’t find are dishonest statements, misrepresentation or false claims: if I’m not confident who has manufactured something we’re selling then the manufacturer will not be named.  If I’m not confident a natural material is unadulterated and what it’s sold as, then I won’t buy it in the first place, much less sell it on.

As a customer of Pell Wall, you have to rely on my judgement on these matters.  If you don’t trust me, you probably shouldn't shop at Pell Wall.

News and Updates

Do you have a mailing list I can subscribe to?

Yes, we do.

Signing up to our mailing list gets you exclusive, usually subscriber only discounts, special offers and coupon codes.

You'll also be the first to know about any changes or news from Pell Wall HQ.

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The discount code you provided doesn't work. What's wrong?

The most common reason for this is because the discount code has been obtained from a site advertising discount codes for various suppliers: in our case such codes will allways be either fake, out of date, or restricted to certain email addresses.  You will never obtain a usable code from such sites and we regularly take enforcement action against them for misuse of our trade marks, but as they opperate at the edges of the law anyway, they tend to persist and proliferate.  Please report any such mis-use of our intelectual property to the site owner.

If you want to be the first to know about our discount codes please subscribe to our mailing list - we guarantee always to tell our VIP subscribers first.

If you've got the code from our mailing list or our own social media accounts:

It is possible that from time to time we may make a mistake when configuring a discount code however we do rounds of testing with them to ensure they are working before we issue them.

If yours isn’t working please make sure that you are entering it exactly as displayed, for example our codes are not case sensitive, usually one word with a number and most importantly do not contain spaces or special characters like exclamation marks or other symbols (!@%$).

Most of our codes are issued through our newsletter as part of an email campaign, we will always have the code in text – rather than just in an image – so a good tip to make sure you get it right is to copy and paste it from the email itself.

If you are sure there is an error please contact us.

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